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A month full of sobriety, kind of

June 2nd, 2010 | No Comments | Posted in Suboxone Detox Diary



Unfor­tu­nately, my detox from detox did not go as planned, but it’s no biggie.

It’s been a month since I decided to jump off the wagon, a few days ago, I had some Sub­u­tex in my reach and ate it up. In no way am I look­ing at it like it was a waste of time, because it was not, but it was a card I wish I would have never played. It didn’t lead to much of any­thing but shit-loads of relief. I’m pretty sure my brain still does not know how to han­dle pain yet.

Any­way, my point of this post is sim­ply more encour­age­ment and some clo­sure I guess. I wish that I would have updated this mini-blog a bit more, but it is what it is. If you want to take con­trol of your life, you CAN do it. With some brains and resources, it’s a walk in the park.

Wrap­ping up, here’s a few tips to help you kick sub­ox­one in the teeth:

  • Stay strong, it get’s a lit­tle better
  • If you can make it the first 5 days, you can make it forever
  • Insom­nia is one of the biggest fac­tors, no sleep = feel­ing like shit. Get some herbs or some ben­zos for that.
  • Don’t tell your­self you can’t. You know you can, I know you can.
  • Do it for your­self. Take control.
  • When in doubt, just let the lovin’ take a hold.



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Alright… Day 10 — Suboxone / Bupe Detox

May 12th, 2010 | No Comments | Posted in Suboxone Detox Diary

I totally have not been updat­ing this as much as I planned to in the begin­ning, but hon­estly, it’s okay. I have proved my point, which is that it is not impos­si­ble to step away from Sub­ox­one (buprenor­phine & naloxone).

The past few days, I’ve felt bet­ter than ever. The morn­ings have been tough, espe­cially around the time that I would nor­mally take sub­ox­one. I’ve cre­ated a rou­tine for my morn­ings though, instead of hang­ing myself up on how I feel worse than I could, I do what I can, specif­i­cally tak­ing a nice hot shower. It’s amaz­ing how you notice the most sim­ple things in life when you have a clean head.

Any­one can do it guys… All you need is two things:

  1. The drive to bet­ter your life, and take control
  2. The will to never look back

Life is way too short to be hung up on phar­ma­ceu­ti­cal ren­der­ings… Like a wise man once said “Life is too short, so you gotta love the one you’ve got, you might get run over or you might get shot.” Life is hard enough as it is, there is already enough stress in the world we live in for twice as many people.

I guess my point is not that sub­ox­one is hor­ri­ble, or that it is the mir­a­cle drug. I feel that it has taught me a lot, but also made me strug­gle just as much as I did before I started tak­ing it.

Over­all, I feel fuck­ing great. If you want to stop tak­ing that tangy orange pill, just do it.

Day 5, Still going strong

May 4th, 2010 | No Comments | Posted in Suboxone Detox Diary

So it’s been five days… It feels like it’s been two hours, I feel great, well not com­pletely great, but what I expected to feel like. I’m still going through aches, I’m sleep­ing a lot bet­ter though which is help­ing me out a lot.

I fin­ished up the Kratom I had yes­ter­day, I actu­ally had some doubts about today, but I can really see the light at the end of the tun­nel. There is hope. Damn do I feel good.

It made me really happy today to see all the views that these posts are get­ting, it also made me really happy to see another blog that was ded­i­cated to pro­mot­ing hope and is actu­ally a whole WP blog about their expe­ri­ence with quit­ting. Amaz­ingly, it really com­pares to what my expe­ri­ence is like. Check it out: Diary of a Quitter

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4 Days without the Bupe (Suboxone)

May 3rd, 2010 | 3 Comments | Posted in Suboxone Detox Diary

Life has sure been chal­leng­ing over the past few days… I’ve been keep­ing myself so busy that I really haven’t made as many posts as I would have liked to on here. For the most part, I feel really great, well… really great for being addicted to some­thing for 2 years and just jump­ing off the wagon.

The first two nights and morn­ings were the worst part. I’ve been keep­ing it mostly herbal, using Kava Kava and a blend of chi­nese herbs called Seven Flow­ers to help get me to sleep. The prob­lem is that I can’t stay asleep for long at all, I do more toss­ing and turn­ing than any­thing, which really sucks because it’s hard to get your­self up and mov­ing in the morn­ing when you’ve just laid there for most of the night.

Through­out the first two days, I ingested about 6 grams of 10x Kratom extract, it didn’t help as much as I thought it would, but it was sure as hell bet­ter than noth­ing. On day 3, I tried upping the dose of Kratom to about 6 grams which pro­duced some nice, relax­ing effects and most of all, some relief.

As I’m writ­ing this, com­pletely sober for 4 days now, I feel pretty good. I have this uncom­fort­able feel­ing inside me, which almost feels like high blood pressure.

Besides Kratom, opti­mism, kava or any­thing else, I think that music has helped me through this the most. Well, and the fact that I can­not be sick, stay in bed or be lazy at all.

Through­out the past few days, the one thing that I have noticed is that I did not tell myself that I need that stu­pid fuck­ing orange, fruity pill. Instead, I have been telling myself that I want to be in con­trol of my life.

This is a good exam­ple of how your mind can over­power any­thing. If you want some­thing bad enough, you can have it. If you have faith in your­self, you can make it happen.

Don’t browse the forums if you’re look­ing to quit, that will only intim­i­date you. Feel free to post com­ments on any of these posts, or go to the con­tact page and ask me for some advice, I will hap­pily help you out.

Here are my sug­ges­tions for those of you look­ing to drop the bupe.

  • Stand tall. Be strong, keep your head up.
  • Get some seda­tives for sleep­ing, you don’t need diazepam, alpra­zo­lam or any­thing like that… Kava works the best, along with valer­ian, hops, skull­cap, cat­nip, 5-HTP.
  • If you can’t sleep, don’t keep try­ing for more than an hour or so. Get a shower, try again.
  • If you still can’t sleep after show­ers and seda­tives, get busy. Clean, go jog­ging do any­thing that involves you being active. Your body freaks because it doesn’t have what it’s used to, don’t let it bind up on you. Exercise.
  • Don’t browse the web for help, it’s not going to help, it’s going to scare you. The weak-minded have cov­ered the inter­net with bull­shit. Which is why I have posted this, and which is why it out-ranks all the other top­ics of it’s kind.
  • DO NOT call your doc­tor or look for a fix.  Stay strong, it gets a lit­tle better.
  • Talk to me about what to do. I’m no expert, but I have learned a lot from attempt­ing this sev­eral times. Use the com­ments at the bot­tom of the page (our dis­cus­sion will be pub­lic) or go to the con­tact page to speak pri­vately.
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The Buprenorphine (Suboxone) Detox Diary — Wise words, intro

May 1st, 2010 | 9 Comments | Posted in Suboxone Detox Diary

Sorry about the ram­bling guys, I like to give a nice back­ground when post­ing things like this. It is infor­ma­tional, the next post will be less rant­ing and rav­ing. Skip the sci­ence stuff.

8mg and 2mg Suboxone PillsIn the USA, an esti­mated 2.4 mil­lion of us unlucky cit­i­zens have prob­lems with opi­ate addic­tion. Ever since the devel­op­ment of opium and mor­phine, these drugs have been hit­ting us like a plague. The point of this mini-blog/category is to inform those who are on a buprenor­phine detox plan and those who need help with their addic­tions to opioids.

There has been tons of talk recently about how ter­ri­ble it is to stop tak­ing Sub­ox­one or Sub­u­tex after detox­ing from other drugs like heroin, oxy­codone, mor­phine, hydrocodone etc. This talk about how you will be sick for 2 months, or how you are going to go into with­drawal so bad that you can’t move, is not going to help any­one try­ing to stop tak­ing the subs. I’ll be cre­at­ing daily blog posts about my expe­ri­ence with sub­ox­one recession.

Before mak­ing the deci­sion to quit, it’s a good idea to learn about the drug and how it works (if you don’t know already). Buprenor­phine is a semi-synthetic opi­oid derived from the­baine. It’s chem­i­cal name is 17-(cyclopropylmethyl)-alpha-(1,1-dimethylethyl)-4,5-epoxy– 18,19-dihydro-3-hydroxy-6-methoxy-alpha-methyl-6,14– ethenomorphinan-7-methanol. It has obvi­ously gain some rep­u­ta­tion for it’s abil­ity to help those addicted to opi­ates detox with­out feel­ing with­drawal symp­toms. The drug is mar­keted and sold in a few dif­fer­ent forms includ­ing Sub­ox­one (buprenor­phine & nalox­one), Sub­u­tex (buprenor­phine) and Temgesic.

When­ever you become depen­dent on opi­ates, the struc­ture of your brain under­goes vast changes. When a per­son uses any kind of opi­oid drug, the drug trav­els to the brain and sat­u­rate those recep­tors result­ing in eupho­ria, basi­cally stim­u­lat­ing your opi­ate recep­tors.  The more you take opi­oids, the more you mess up those pre­cious opi­ate recep­tors. Buperenor­phine is said to acti­vate those recep­tors, mak­ing you feel… not sick. Sci­en­tif­i­cally, the opi­ates you take does not cause sick­ness or with­drawal symp­toms, it’s your brain.

Since Buperenor­phine was approved by the FDA, it has been help­ing us unfor­tu­nate ones with over­com­ing opi­ate depen­dency. Most doc­tors will tell you that you will not undergo with­drawal symp­toms after tak­ing Bupe because it is not a full-antagonist like heroin, mor­phine etc., it’s only a partial-antagonist, but the inter­net com­mu­nity will tell you dif­fer­ently. If you do a search for “sub­ox­one with­drawal”, you will find tons of forum threads that say the same thing. None of them are any help, they will all just dis­cour­age you to jump off the wagon.

Alright, with all the sci­en­tific stuff behind us, let’s get to busi­ness. I’m a 21 year old male, Cau­casian, about 150 pounds. I’ve been tak­ing var­i­ous amounts of Sub­ox­one tablets for a lit­tle over two years now. Most of this time, I self-medicated, some of the time, being pre­scribed by a physi­cian. Over the last year or so, I’ve been prepar­ing to stop tak­ing the evil orange pill by taper­ing down from 8mg a day to about 0.5mg a day.  I have tried to quit about 10 times through­out my few years of using Sub­ox­one, with no success.

Each time, I’ve learned more and more about the drug. This time (already at day 3), I have a cou­ple other strate­gies. First off, I have been exper­i­ment­ing with Kratom (Mitrag­yna spe­ciosa). Kratom is an opioid-antagonist which has been used since the 19th cen­tury for opium sub­sti­tu­tion and opium addic­tion. I have tried Kratom a few years back, before my affair with hydrocodone, oxy­codone, mor­phine and hydro­mor­phone. I bought an ounce of leaf from one of my trusted ven­dors (Oh yeah, Kratom is legal, unsched­uled, except Thai­land). After brew­ing up the nasty tast­ing Kratom, it pro­duced the same effects as I had pre­vi­ously felt after tak­ing 14mg or hydrocodone. With this in mind, I picked up some higher qual­ity, Kratom extract for this journey.

Also, I plan on con­tin­u­ously hydrat­ing, to keep my body cleansed and refreshed. I’ve been think­ing about herbal detox, but I’m still unsure about that. Before even think­ing about stop­ping the flow of buprenor­phine, here’s a few things you need to keep in mind.

  1. It’s going to be hard to sleep. Pre­pare to sleep in small intervals.
  2. You’ll be in pain for at least a cou­ple days, so if you work, it would be a good idea to take the first few days off.
  3. You are in con­trol. If you keep telling your­self that you feel ter­ri­ble, that you need the pills, that you can’t do it, etc… You will most likely fail.

Even after feel­ing like utter shit, you can make your­self feel bet­ter with opti­mism. Con­stantly tell your­self that you can do it, this is noth­ing, I can­not wait to be free from this drug. If you lay in bed all day, you are going to feel like shit. You need to be active, if you need to take a shower every time you feel like your mus­cles are tied in a knot. If you can heat up your mus­cles (with a hot shower) and con­tinue to be active, you will feel much better.

One of the worst parts of the with­drawal is the insom­nia. It’s impos­si­ble to feel any bet­ter the next day if you were toss­ing and turn­ing in bed all night long. If you can, get some type of seda­tives to help you get rest. Ben­zo­di­azepines will work the best, but not every­one can get access to them. Per­son­ally, I use Kratom, Kava Kava, Valer­ian, Cat­nip and Mela­tonin. Really, any type of seda­tive will help you out.

No mat­ter what, don’t com­plain to your doc­tor or try to score an 8 off your buddy. Stay strong.

Most doc­tors will tell you not to worry about with­drawal symp­toms, they will tell you it’s all in your head. I think this is par­tially true, when your body is depen­dent on a drug, it is going to freak out when it doesn’t have it any­more. It’s nat­u­rally going to depress your mind and body. Espe­cially in the case of buprenor­phine, once you are done tak­ing it, you’re not going to feel com­pletely okay. The rea­son you were given bupe is because it fills a void in your brain that opi­ate use cre­ated, so, once you are com­pletely with­out any type of opi­oid, your brain will not remem­ber how to pro­duce the hor­mones and chem­i­cals that it nat­u­rally makes, mak­ing you feel like shit.

The biggest thing about quit­ting is that no mat­ter what you’re try­ing to stop doing, you are not going to feel great for a while. For exam­ple, in my sit­u­a­tion, my brain has not pro­duced it’s nat­ural opi­ates in over 3 years, so when I stop tak­ing sub­ox­one, I am going to feel ter­ri­ble for a long time (That’s just the truth. It’s not pes­simism, it’s real­ity). This would be the same if I had been doing heroin for 3 years, it’s all the same con­cept, think back to one of the first para­graphs, opi­ate addic­tion changes the struc­ture of your brain.

Any­ways, by the end of the day I will have a new post here that is actu­ally describ­ing how I am feel­ing and what I am doing to feel bet­ter. I just feel that the more you know about your enemy, the bet­ter off you are.

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